I am not super familiar with Michigan politics, but it seems to me that - if the messaging is good - Abdul El-Sayed’s nomination to run for U.S. Senate is a true opportunity for t he Democratic party to expand their reach.

Top line? Abdul is as American as apple pie. He is the showcase for what immigration and assimilation have done to help make the United States the economic powerhouse and cultural melting pot it has been for 250 years and still is today. Our strength IS our diversity.

  • El-Sayed was born in Michigan and was raised by his Egyptian father (who studied engineering at Wayne State University) and American stepmother (also an engineer).

  • He was the team captain in wrestling, football and lacrosse at Bloomberg Hills Andover High School in Michigan (as a former college lacrosse player myself, AES had me with this one 😇)

  • EL-Sayed graduated from the University of Michigan, majored in biology and political science and played on the men's club lacrosse team. He graduated Phi Beta Kappa with Highest Distinction in 2007 with a bachelor's degree and delivered that year's commencement speech.

  • After 2 years at U of Michigan Med School (on a full scholarship), he applied for and received a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford, where he received a Doctorate in Public Health and captained the men’s lacrosse team

  • He completed his M.D. at Columbia University. El-Sayed joined the faculty at the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health as an assistant professor in the epidemiology department. He served as director of Columbia's Systems Science Program and Global Research Analytics for Population Health. He has received several research awards, including being named one of the Carnegie Council's Policy Innovators.

  • Back in Michigan, El-Sayed served as the Public Health Director for Detroit and then for Wayne County.

Basically, Abdul El-Sayed is the person most mothers (and fathers too - don’t @ me) dream their child would grow up to be. A student. An athlete. A doctor. A public servant.

Abdul El-Sayed is the All-American Guy.

Now, here’ some interesting information from a post yesterday by pollster and statistician G. Elliot Morris:

In recent weeks, the Stevens campaign and its allies spent much of their time and money arguing El-Sayed is too progressive to win Michigan in November, and that Stevens would have been a more “electable” candidate. The New York Times reported the day after the primary that El-Sayed’s “narrow win” sets up a “critical test” for the “insurgent” left: Can progressives win in swing states?

I find these debates about electability tiring and, usually, damningly devoid of data. The reality is if you look at the data — the polls and the “fundamentals,” to use the parlance of election forecasters — the two candidates look like they would have done roughly the same this November.

[After presenting some tables on polling, Morris concludes] Accounting for uncertainty across the poll results, there is no statistically significant difference between how the candidates polled for the November election.

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The smart answer to the question “Would Stevens have done better than El-Sayed?” is simply “I don’t know.”

And that’s not all. The other problem is that it’s nowhere near November. Public opinion tends to change a lot in Senate races in the final 90 days.

Whether you think El-Sayed will do worse than Stevens would have also depends on how much faith you put in Senate polls conducted in August. And frankly… you shouldn’t put much.

I went back through every Senate race with public polling since 2008 and calculated how close the average poll taken 90 days out was to the final result. The answer is not close at all. Across 88 competitive Senate races, the average poll 90 days out is 7 points off from the final margin.

More to the point of this column, 85% of those races ended up more than 2 points from where the polls had them in early August — which is more than the entire distance between Stevens and El-Sayed in those pre-primary surveys. More than half missed by greater than 5 points.

For the record, Michigan’s own polling record is even worse than the average race…

Morris’ final conclusion in the post:

For the sake of clarity, I am not arguing that candidate quality doesn’t matter. It does, and in some cases by a lot — see, e.g., Susan Collins. And there is risk that comes with nominating a candidate who has not been vetted in a prior campaign for elected office. (See: Graham Platner.)

What I am arguing for is uncertainty. I’m not telling you El-Sayed is as strong a candidate as Stevens would have been. I’m telling you that a poll taken in August can’t tell the difference. If you are a partisan or ideologue, maybe you have your priors about who would be stronger. But if you are trying to operate from a data-driven perspective, the evidence is unclear.

People are getting out over their skis projecting that El-Sayed will lose Michigan when Stevens would have won it. There is no version of the polling or other data where the electability gap for Stevens is measured precisely enough to justify the certainty with which people are opining about this contest.

The data shows both El-Sayed and Stevens are/would have been favored over Rogers, by about the same amount, and the difference between them is smaller than the uncertainty in our forecasts.

Morris’ column brings several thoughts to the fore for me.

First, Dems need to stop talking about EL-Sayed vs. Stevens and how Stevens would have done against Rogers vs. how El-Sayed will do. IT’s a moot point. Dems need to start talking about the difference between El-Sayed the All-American Guy and Mike Rogers, the sleazy and complicit Republican.

Second, the challenge for El-Sayed and supporting Democratic institutions is to play this race on El-Sayeed’s and Democrat’s home turf (remember, teams win way more often when they have home field advantage). That means highlighting El-Sayed’s All-American story, his medical credentials, his public service, and differentiating that from Rogers.

Third, position El-Sayed as the culmination of the good that immigration and assimilation of different cultures and viewpoints bring to this country. He IS the essence of the American melting pot. Play this off against the venal inhumanity of Trump and Stephen Miller and point out how Rogers is with them al the way in the fearmongering and hate.

Finally, El-Sayed needs to keep this race on corruption, direct-voter-impact issues and pivot away every time his opponents try to play on their home turf (anti-Israel accusations and fear of Muslims).

El-Sayed’s candidacy is, IMHO, an incredible opportunity for Democrats to showcase their popular values, their higher quality candidate, to fight back against the culture wars and hatred of Republicans, and to broaden the Democratic coalition.

It all depends on the message.

John Fogerty - Centerfield


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David J3 months ago

First, Dems need to stop talking about EL-Sayed vs. Stevens and how Stevens would have done against Rogers vs. how El-Sayed will do. IT’s a moot point. Dems need to start talking about the difference between El-Sayed the All-American Guy and Mike Rogers, the sleazy and complicit Republican.

You are asking a lot here. Democrats love talking about Democrats. If they spent more time going after the criminals in the GOP and less time whinging about things they perceive as wrong with other Democrats we might actually win a lot more elections. I want AES to savage that sorry fuck Mike Rogers. He really is a lowlife. These guys all sold their political souls to DJT. They deserve every bad thing that happens to them. I have zero respect for elected Republicans. They are a danger to this great to this great nation and our way of life.

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Aardbark P.3 months ago

I'm well to the left of centrists but I think I'm moderate - I like the 1956 Republican platform. Nevertheless, I'm in favor of even more DSA candidates winning so that caucus has the ability to pull the "center" back to the middle through compromise. I think some of the DSA positions are unrealistic, but that doesn't bother me.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

https://newrepublic.com/post/214066/centrist-third-way-spend-millions-democratic-socialists-dsa-el-sayed Their leader worked for Clinton and Quomo. Our biggest obstacle is our moderates and centrists.

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Aardbark P.3 months ago

One thing that strikes me about this DSA/centrist discussion is that the "center" is to the right of the hypothetical political horseshoe. IOW, the center is essentially right-leaning Rockefeller Republicans who don't feel comfortable with the present incarnation of the GOP - they had to go somewhere.

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tam1MI 3 months ago

Finally, El-Sayed needs to keep this race on corruption, direct-voter-impact issues and pivot away every time his opponents try to play on their home turf (anti-Israel accusations and fear of Muslims).

Agreed, but will his leftier voters allow him to?

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Joe is Wypoxic3 months ago

That’s the million dollar question, isn’t it?!

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Kay W.3 months ago

El-Sayed’s mother is a nurse practitioner in Missouri - his parents divorced when he was young and he was raised by his father and stepmother, as Hoe noted. He has a relationship with his mother - he actually interviewed her for a campaign clip they used on Tik Tok - but I assume that’s a little messy and jerks might explore it for dirt. Because as we all know, no Real Americans get divorced.

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Kay W.3 months ago

One thing that came clear during canvassing was that African Americans in Michigan are just sick over loss of the voting rights act. They are also mad at Dems for what they see as insufficient effort on voting rights. I’m not sure that’s fair - Sinema and Manchin killed voting legislation, but people think what they think. So El-Sayed should make that one of his issues and put his huge cadre of volunteers to work on it. I think doing that would mean more than any number of visits to Black churches. They are looking for actual protection on voting rights. He can deliver on that for the midterms. It’s both the right thing to do and politically smart.

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Joe is Wypoxic3 months ago

Great point Kay...

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Kay W.3 months ago

He already has a “lawyers for Abdul” A ground effort on voting rights would also contribute to party unity because it helps all the D candidates.

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C P3 months ago

100%. Hope he jumps on that.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

There's sort of an odd dynamic where when a moderate wins by whatever margin everyone to the left of Clintonomics is told to shut up, accept they aren't getting what they want and are going to get screwed over, walk to the center and fall inline.

Yet when someone even slightly to the left wins by any margin they are told to immediately give up on anything but moderate (and all moderates are neoliberals and centrists on economics) economics or they will lose. Then instead given a laundry list of social issues THAT THE LEFT ALREADY SUPPORTS AND AGREES ON and told they can only focus on/talk about/and deliver on this. Then they must walk to the center and fall in line.

Moderates entire thing is "heads I win, tails you lose, by the superiority of being the professional class I get to make the rules".

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Frogg Togg3 months ago

Those of us who go way back remember Warner Wolf as a DC personality before he went to the big city in 1976. His replacement, Glenn Brenner, was probably better or at least was more humorous.

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Joe is Wypoxic3 months ago

I forgot about that. Of course, growing up in suburban NYC area, Washington area teams (Redskins, Bullets, Orioles) were the enemy 😬

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Scott H3 months ago

Glenn Brenner was simply the best and he left us far, far too early.

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Kay W.3 months ago

I think the Left will continue to have difficulty drawing in Black voters in the Great Lakes states, however, for some very good reasons. Black people started allying with Democrats in the Great Lakes states well before LBJ. They turned towards Dems when they migrated north in huge numbers to work in manufacturing, so in the 30s and 40s. They built African American political power in Chicago, Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit only thru great effort and despite white European immigrants pushing them down. So what we on the Left are asking them to do is let go of the organization within which they built Black power (Dem Party) and take a flyer on a much smaller and less powerful organization. That is a hard sell. It’s not about feelings or affection for establishment Dems. It’s about black political power and protecting what black people have built. That’s why it’s so hard - there are very good reasons Black people are reluctant to change horses.

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C P3 months ago

Sure. But people like AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, Hong, and all the others aren't really asking them to let go of the organization - they're just asking them to help them improve it. As with the teabaggers with Republicans, the DSA in practical terms is more of an internal attempt to take over or influence the Democratic Party than to just throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Young black voters, at least, seem to get that. Unless the progressive candidates are complete idiots, I'm hoping that they can convince enough others, too.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

The entire quarrel here is not really really racial. It's just put in racial terms because that's a silver bullet to win any argument in our party.

When the center wins they get to dictate the rules and others must come to them. When the left wins they don't get to dictate the rules they most go to the center and accept orders.

That's it pure and simple. But moderates can't admit that so they dress it up in ways that obscure what they actually are doing and allow them to punch left if they can't dictate the rules and policy anymore.

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Kay W.3 months ago

El-Sayed’s brand new ads are pretty much what you’ve outlined here - ambitious child of immigrants has great success in basically everything he tries. I backed him so much not just because he’s on the Left (like me) but because side I recognized he gets better and better. He has a high ceiling. I think people will be surprised to find out how patriotic he is. It was funny to watch his Lefty backers deal with that, but he’s unapologetic about it. He doesn’t love the dominating, bullying version of the US. He loves the US that offers everyone opportunity. I think all but his most closed minded critics will recognize he’s really very good, and has the capacity to be great.

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C P3 months ago

It's one of the great undiscussed facts of American politics that 99% of Democratic voters are, in fact, pretty patriotic, and that this is, in fact, reflected in their elections. Obama, Clinton, and Biden's campaigns, whatever else can be said about them, were all explosions of red white and blue Americana, and it's very rare for Democratic candidates not to, at the very least, embrace that aesthetic even if they don't feel it. People who hate America just... don't tend to run for public office or vote in elections.

GOP and MSM propaganda scrupulously pretends otherwise, and there's a fair amount of loud (and loudly spotlighted) activist types who don't fit the bill, though to be fair I think that's not even "activists" so much as "people on Twitter with opinions" a lot of the time. But it's quite obviously true.

(Heck, one of the loudest motivations behind all the anti-AIPAC activism is "we're Americans. We should not be placing another country's needs above our own.")

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Busted Knee3 months ago

Patriotism isn't really our weak point in and of itself. Smugness is our weak point. See the two Clintons.

Bill Clinton ran and masterful "I feel your pain" campaign. He also went out of his way to stress that he was, at core, trash who came from trash without beating it too hard. Hillary Clinton ran on how we were the winners, the high earners, and everyone else was losers. Openly mocked those less well off, and said breaking up the big banks won't stop racism. Biden and Obama were Bill Clintonian in this same style.

When we are self depreciating and connect with those beneath us things don't stick to us with normal people. When we come out with how great and better than thou we are and smug it up everything sticks. The problem is our upper middle class earners are smug assholes and do want everyone to agree how superior they are so they keep pushing this crap and crying cism when normal people run from them.

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Ken In MN3 months ago

"El-Sayed’s candidacy is, IMHO, an incredible opportunity for Democrats to showcase their popular values, their higher quality candidate, to fight back against the culture wars and hatred of Republicans, and to broaden the Democratic coalition."

Which is why Chuck Schumer, Third Way and AIPAC with do everything in their power to FUBAR it...

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tam1MI 3 months ago

Which is why Chuck Schumer, Third Way and AIPAC with do everything in their power to FUBAR it...

Chuck Schumer has endorsed AES.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

Schumer will cut him off at the knees and block anything good when he gets to the senate. Then his failure to get anything done will be portrayed as "nothing to the left of Clinton is possible don't get peoples hopes up". Remember AOC and The Squad were marginalized, disrespected, and put at the kiddy table. They got where they were by working outside of the party and raising their own media profile in non traditional ways.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

Our party constantly says "don't do anything for our inferiors and don't reach out to them. especially the non educated, white, and male". Others have gone around that.

During COVID it turned out AOC and Ilhan Omar were gamers. Pretty good at it and Omar built her own computer with drool worthy specs. So... they went and lived streamed a gaming session on one the media spaces (Twitch IIRC) we claim is filled with Nazis. Shocker of shockers they drew a massive young male manosphere audience who complimented them and listened to what they had to say. It worked! This is the same crowd that tore Elon to shreds on live stream for cheating at Path of Exile. Had they listened to the parties way of doing things that never would have happened.

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Busted Knee3 months ago

Mamdani also went on Flagrant which is a manosphere podcast and charmed their socks off. He came away with them all rooting for him and supporting him. Immediately the usual suspects screamed that this is proof the left is actually right wing MAGA assholes and should be driven out and also he should have been talking about trans.

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Sepideh M3 months ago

Republicans are sore losers who have spent over 15 years ripping health care away from the American people. They know their positions are unpopular so they are playing games, ripping your benefits away after the next election. El-Sayed wants everyone to have health care.

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C P3 months ago

I'm trying very hard to train myself never to look at polls again. Polling is broken. No need to stress over it.

Hard agree on El-Sayed being an all-American guy. Millions of us in fact grew up next to people like this be they Muslims, Jews, Hindus, or Christians. The more we admit that this is what America looks like, the better for everyone.