In my post on Trump’s grift vs. Elon’s main chance, I noted that my expectation was that Trump would be all about his petty grifts. I didn’t anticipate Musk being the King.

So I was way wrong, and a course correction is required. With that in mind, I’ve been searching out people who are stridently demanding more — more from Democrats, more from citizens, just more, more more. I’m thinking that’s the direction we need to go.

Let’s start with Senate Gabe. He’s a former staffer for Minnesota Senator Tina Smith. He’s disgruntled, but he clearly knows his shit. (Note that I fucking hate the Senate. I am a House guy, through and through, full disclosure.)

Anyway, Gabe has gone beyond pushing that the Senate should obstruct to saying Congress should impeach. And, of course, he’s right. The constitution anticipated a Trump, and the founders gave us a way to get rid of him. Unfortunately, they didn’t anticipate that the Trump’s party would be all-in for him.

A while back, Gabe posted a Congressional Research Service study about quorum and filibusters. I couldn’t find it on BlueSky so I DM’d him and he got back to me with a reference to this link. Here’s his color on that:

Now, I like Chris Murphy and I think he says a lot of the right things. Ditto for some other Senators. But quorum calls, as Gabe notes, would be hugely disruptive. And for all the good talk from Murphy et. al., they are unwilling to do this kind of obstruction.

My position now, since I’m Gabe-pilled, is fucking do it.

The second one is Oliver Willis. I've read him forever, but I lost touch with his stuff over the years. Oliver is consistently more strident than me. But I’ll be god damned if I don’t respect someone who puts in the work, and Oliver watched thousands of hours of Fox when he was working for Media Matters. And he posts regularly on DailyKos slagging on Republicans. So here’s an example of a post that I think is a little on the edge:

I think that Booker needs more gentle encouragement rather than correction. But I have to respect Oliver’s take. He knows more than me. He understands how right-wing media works, and how Democrats should respond in a way that gets attention similar to right wingers. So I am probably wrong, and he’s probably right. AOC, for example, would not make the point Booker made in the way he did.

My final name-check, hat tip to Kay in the comments on another blog, is the DSA. As a Democrat of a certain age, I should cringe at this stuff. But having a little play at a Tesla dealership in Seattle — why the fuck not?

Why not do whatever you can do to reach whoever is reachable? Will this work? No clue, and who cares? These people put in the time to do something that might grab some attention. I support them.

So, my conclusion is I support anyone who is moving “the discourse” in a direction of opposition to Trump. That’s my course correction. I hope you agree.

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Marmot Pimpernel 1 year ago

I can’t leave well enough alone, so I thought I’d see how Hakeem’s statement comes out if you apply some workaday writing rules:

“Once again, Elon harms millions of Americans with another embarrassment, another example of pointless confusion. Is he interested in the public good — or his own ego and his own wallet?”

Not bad. It’s missing specifics, though.

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John S.1 year ago

As the Emperor says to Mozart in Amadeus, “Too many notes.” And they aren’t even the right notes.

Nobody gives a shit about Musk’s ego OR wallet. And if Americans cared about embarrassment or confusion, they wouldn’t have elected a convicted felon to be President .

What they care about is getting screwed. That an unelected oligarch is acting like a king. And there’s nothing in that statement which evenly remotely resonates with someone who is pissed off with the DOGE shit, let alone convince anyone who is pissed but still on the sidelines.

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John S.1 year ago

And just in time to throw cold water on any hope that they may be learning, 3 Democrats just voted with Republicans to send Trump’s labor secretary pick out of committee.

Sens. Maggie Hassan, John Hickenlooper and Tim Kaine need to hear from their constituents.

So forget about throwing sand in the procedural gears, apparently we still need to get these folks on board with NOT going along with any part of Trump’s agenda.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Oliver Willis had the right reaction to this. Pure rage.

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Tam R1 year ago

Seriously? This is unacceptable.

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John S.1 year ago

Seriously. Granted, it’s a committee vote, and that’s not necessarily indicative of the floor vote. But then what’s even the point? To say that you’re ok with an unserious and unqualified nominee going to the floor knowing they will get confirmed by Republicans anyway? If that’s the case, at least withhold any form of consent in the first place.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

I don't like the folks trying to have it both ways by voting "Yes" to something leaving the committee and then "No" so they can then tell voters whatever they want to hear whichever side of the issue they are on.

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Betty Cracker1 year ago

Have any of y'all who are lucky enough to have a Dem senator asked them about quorum calls? Or seen a media report where a Dem senator was asked that question? I'm curious about their rationale, but I assume it's the senate's regrettable clubby nature. I agree 100% -- any sand within reach should be thrown into the gears immediately. This is an emergency.

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John S.1 year ago

I tried the few times I managed to get through to a staffer for Sen. Cantwell (back when she was still voting for Trump nominees). Never got an answer.

Throwing sand in the gears is so easy to do. I was a senator in student government at university back in the day, and even we used procedural moves to gum things up.

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Tam R1 year ago

That’s a great question. I’ve been making futile daily calls to Suzie Collins, but I think I am going to brush up on quorum calls and ask Sen. King about it.

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- TPO1 year ago

Interesting that Gabe worked for Tina Smith. I haven't really followed her since she replaced Franken, but she seems to have the appropriate level of anger and appreciation for the gravity of the current troubles:

https://bsky.app/profile/smith.senate.gov/post/3lislyqfi5k2h

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Not to speak for Gabe but I gather that his beef is that she's still doing unanimous consent and not asking for quorum calls.

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Tam R1 year ago

I think we get caught up in words like drastic and dramatic. I also think that most elected Democrats identify as serious people, good governance people. Dog knows I like those things in good times. We are not in good times. Politics is theater. We have to make good television. Senate speak is not breaking through the media blockade. I don’t know what to say about impeachment. Our biggest problem is that we don’t have any elected Republicans in Congress who will defend their oaths of office. They are all too chicken shit to hold Trump/Musk accountable and I don’t trust the media to even fairly describe why Trump absolutely deserves to be impeached. I’m staying open minded though. At this point I don’t give a shit about policy differences or longer term problems with alliances. The house is on fire. My family is inside. Whoever is willing to grab an axe and go in will find me going in with them.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

The house is on fire is the right way to look at it.

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John S.1 year ago

That’s the right analogy for sure. The house really is on fire because Trump gave Musk a book of matches and a gasoline can.

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Kay W.1 year ago

DSA are "salting" Reddit with info and solicitations, IMO. I think its a campaign. I don't blame them at all, they see an opening, it's fair game. If there's a hole, someone will fill it. I wonder if the Democrats are aware its going on.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

I don't know if Democrats are aware, but when they become aware, I do know they'll be pissed! There's no divine right to the voter who won't vote Republican.

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Kay W.1 year ago

I'm also partial to labor unions, so I'm hoping they play a role in opposition. Union households voted 57% for Harris, which is a solid number. It's a skewed number too because so many union households are law enforcement - very Republican. So for NON law enforcement union households we could be 60+. Good. My middle son is in the IBEW and active. They are the most liberal union where I live, with Steel workers being the most Trumpy. I know they're filing lawsuits but I hope we see some organized actions.

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Tam R1 year ago

The best organizers I’ve ever worked with were SEIU organizers. If they mobilize they mean it.

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John S.1 year ago

100% agree. Drastic times call for drastic measures, and the same old same old just isn’t going to cut it.

Love that Tesla video. It’s so Washington.

I would submit that the Pacific coast is now the new “blue wall” for Democrats. As someone from the east coast, I can honestly say people are just wired differently out here. But that also makes my disappointment with my reps (with the exception of Sen. Murray) slightly worse. I expect more from them because they literally have nothing to lose. Looking at you Rep. Schrier who keeps voting for poison pill bills like the Laken Riley Act.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Murray is an unexpected but appreciated voice on the socials.

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Kay W.1 year ago

Agreed on moving the discourse but not impeachment. Impeachment is dead letter, politically. It just doesn't matter. It hasn't mattered, really, since the GOP tried to remove Bill Clinton for lying in a deposition. Its not a good tool now, if it ever was. I'm still casting around for a way to think about this, now that the worst has happened and its an actual coup. I'm brushing up on FTF organizing because it seems clear some kind of mass movement will be required here shortly. That's as far as I've gotten. I keep looking though. I have this fuzzy idea that when the student is ready the teacher will appear, or some shit like that. Thin reed, I know.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Yeah, I told Gabe that I'm not on board with impeachment, but hell yes to dilatory tactics.

What's FTF?

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Kay W.1 year ago

Face to face. I'm learning the Starbucks organizing model. No existing union would help them so they just started on their own and came up with a scaleable system. The initial organizer was a young woman whose parents emigrated from Afghanistan, a Bernie person.

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Kay W.1 year ago

Face to face. I'm learning the Starbucks organizing model. No existing union would help them so they just started on their own and came up with a scaleable system. The initial organizer was a young woman whose parents emigrated from Afghanistan, a Bernie person.

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GSV Sleeper Service1 year ago

Face to Face?

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GSV Sleeper Service1 year ago

Face To Face? (the activity, I assume, not the band)

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Thanks! Hadn't seen that before. Shows my ignorance about organizing.