Will the Epstein Docs Make a Difference?

Who knows?

Gotta procrastinate packing, so here’s another post.

Josh Marshall makes an interesting observation about the kinds of people who are getting very upset about the non-release of the Epstein files:

A friend asked me recently: how is it that MAGA is so over the top about finding out which rich and powerful men may have had sex with 16 or 17 year old girls when it’s apparently fine that the leader of their movement is a longtime sex abuser and serial predator? On the one hand, this person was saying, how is one thing so beyond the pale and the others are completely fine? On another level, this person was asking, is it really so hard to believe that a guy who appears to have routinely assaulting women just over 18 did the same with those just under?

There are a few different ways to answer this. At one level, in MAGA world, Donald Trump is different. No rules apply to him. It’s good to be the king. At another level, it’s a complicated question comparing the horror of different kinds of sexual predation, or whether a person who does one is likely do do another. But there is one level of MAGA’s hyper-focus on pedophilia and sex trafficking conspiracy theories which needs to be emphasized. Because at a basic level, that obsession has nothing to do with pedophilia as a thing in itself — not as most of us might understand it.

One of the most telling aspects of this MAGA obsession is the focus on the punishment of the “elites” who are behind it. At a basic level, the victims never really take center stage. And that is the heart of it. In the MAGA world, pedophilia isn’t a crime or abuse that needs to be stopped. It is more a legitimating tool which provides a license for cleansing acts of retributive violence and revenge. This is what’s at the end of the story in every far-right/MAGA conspiracy: a wave of eliminationist, cleansing violence led by someone like Trump in which the bad guys, the liberals, the Democrats, the globalist elites, etc etc are wiped out. And that’s why whether it’s Pizzagate, QAnon or the more outlandish versions of the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theories, they always keep coming back to pedophilia. Because pedophilia summons a level of disgust, anger and revulsion that makes the perpetrators seem uniquely inhuman, less than human, people against whom total violence is acceptable and necessary. In other words, these conspiracy theories are systems of thought that provide sanction and legitimation for what you want to do to your enemies. They’re about the enemies. The role of pedophilia in these stories is just a means to an end, making what you want to do with your enemies okay.

Steve M makes a similar observation.

This is a long way of saying that if we ever see the Epstein documents, Republicans will declare them fake as soon as they don't confirm the right's global pedophilia narrative. If Trump is implicated, or prominent Democrats aren't, they'll say the documents are fakes created by Obama, or by whoever controlled Joe Biden's autopen. There seems to be a bipartisan movement now to get at the truth, but it won't be bipartisan for long. Republicans need their craziest theories to be affirmed, and if that doesn't happen, they'll turn against the whole process.

And, of course, that's why the Trump Justice Department is trying to coerce testimony from Ghislaine Maxwell. The Trumpers want her to endorse the right's narrative, and when and if she does, we'll be told she's telling the truth and the documents are the real liars. And everyone on the right will say that's true.

I can’t disagree with either of these points very strenuously. The core conspiracy theory Q Anon types will either be unsatisfied with the process, or ignore Trump’s involvement in order to seize on some other villain. (Cheryl Rofer has a good overview of Q Anon if you’ve been living under a rock).

Again, though, I need to make the observation that the politics of this whole Epstein “scandal” isn’t about what core Trumpers believe. Those crazies will never vote for a Democrat. This is about chip, chip, chip on marginal Trump voters’ attitudes towards him, and also de-motivating Trumpers. He lied to them. He throws up smokescreens instead of doing what he said he would do in a way that’s almost comical.

At the moment, even people who don’t usually care about conspiracies think that the smoke around Epstein indicates a fire. Ghislane Maxwell, serving a 20-year sentence, is an unreliable witness because she’ll say anything to get out of prison, and she’ll be irrevocably tainted after Todd Blanche offers immunity for lies. The Epstein file itself is also tainted after Trump had thousands of FBI agents on 24-hour shifts run through it to find (and presumably redact) his name. Releasing the “file” isn’t going to do shit. He’s damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t, and that’s a great place to have your opponent.

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