If I were Gavin Newsom’s political advisor, I’d handcuff him to the governor’s desk to keep him from going on podcasts and running his dumb mouth:

The military draft or something else position is often framed like this (Chris Kluwe’s response to Newsom):

I’ve heard this idea from different politicians over the decades, and my immediate, visceral response is: “you first”. You go take a year and a half from your life to do some underpaid, forced labor because some politician thinks the kids need toughening up, or straightening out, or whatever reason is behind this nonsense. When you get back, oops, someone else has your job, so we won’t have to listen to you anyway.

This is the worst kind of old-man-shouting-at-clouds. The military has said over and over that they prefer volunteers over conscriptees. If USAID or the Peace Corps or Americorps needs more volunteers, perhaps appropriate some money to pay their staff better. Don’t saddle them with thousands of uninterested young men and women who would rather be anywhere but there.

Also, chef’s kiss to Newsom on the timing of this insight, when we’re about to put some troops through the wood chipper in Iran. Perfect time to tell the young men and women of America that one of our big-name Democrats want to force them to join the military, so they, too, can bleed and die in a stupid war in the desert, just as some of their peers who volunteered are doing now.

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John S.8 months ago

Sure, let’s adopt the Swiss version of compulsory military service. Which also includes not having a massive standing army or spending $1 trillion per year on defense.

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Scott H8 months ago

I have a different idea:

Working in fast food should be required of every American before heading out to college, trade school or profession of choice.

It teaches humility, responsibility and that people suck.

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mister mixAuthor8 months ago

It was a huge formative experience for me, that's for sure. It also cures you of the "wouldn't it be great to open my own restaurant" bug.

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Frogg Togg8 months ago

I'm going to go the other way on this issue. We now have a "fifth column" of military families who know nothing but military service and MAGA beliefs. Some type of military or public service would mix people from different classes. At least expose people to belief systems different from their own. The public service would not have to be 18 months; six months of 20 hours per week would be sufficient.

PS - I was 14 when the compulsory draft ended. I had no interest in military service.

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mister mixAuthor8 months ago

I do believe we have an issue in the military (especially the Air Force, apparently), but I don't think mandatory service solves it. Plus modern military service is complex, so 6 months of 20 hours would just have them collecting garbage or cooking in the mess hall while the "real soldiers" would be off doing real soldiering.

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Frogg Togg8 months ago

Six months strictly for public service. If you choose military service, you get the normal amount of boot camp time.

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mister mixAuthor8 months ago

That makes sense. Still don't agree, but appreciate your perspective.

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C P8 months ago

Yeah, ironically, the military is the only place where I think a period of compulsory service might be worth it. Purely because of the unique dangers posed by the military, and specifically by a military that's increasingly just its own closed caste from the rest of society.

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TXG1112 8 months ago

I am not going to defend Newsome, but to a certain extent I can see the appeal of a program that would be some kind of great leveler. People look at the shared experience of WW2 vets and the cultural mixing that was forced by the Vietnam era draft and think that exposure to people from various places and economic strata would be a net positive.

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mister mixAuthor8 months ago

I get the great leveler aspect of it, but I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.

Also, on Vietnam, it was also a war that started the tradition of elites getting out of doing their service time by exploiting loopholes.

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Scott H8 months ago

Gee, I can't think of any notable current office-holder who fits that description.

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C P8 months ago

The only other institution in the country that has a similar record (a far more extensive one, in fact, given that many many more Americans have done it than joined the military) in taking people from all kinds of backgrounds, tossing them together, and expecting them to learn to get along is... college.

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Marmot Pimpernel 8 months ago

Now we’re talking.

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C P8 months ago

Thinking back to when I was a teen, I remember instantly disliking this "national service" mentality simply because of the implicit assumption that some jobs are worthier than others. Some jobs are a service, and the rest are just... greedy moneygrubbing selfishness, I guess?

As if 99% of the people in the military would still be there selflessly "serving" if they weren't getting paid for it. As if the people who make my food, handle my money, heal me, fix my plumbing, build my house, and all the rest of that stuff weren't providing just as invaluable a service to me as anybody in public service.

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C P8 months ago

Newsom really is falling out of the idiot tree and hitting every branch on the way down, isn't he.

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Scott H8 months ago

He's always been that way.

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mister mixAuthor8 months ago

I have zero interest in voting for him. I completely fail to see what's good about him. I mean, he runs a pretty good snarky twitter account, but that's about it...

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TBone Dinosaur8 months ago

Also too "In a sweeping change to its enlistment regulations, the Army has raised the maximum age for eligible recruits to 42, the service announced.

Changes highlighted in the memo, which was distributed this week and will go into effect in April, also include the removal of previous enlistment obstacles for recruits who have a single marijuana or drug paraphernalia conviction."

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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/03/25/army-raises-maximum-enlistment-age-to-42/