Short post since this is a travel day.

This is… stupid.

I know some people will tune this out because it’s about foreign trade and trade deficits and it’s sometime hard to understand if you haven’t spent at least some time studying how foreign trade and trade deficits work (or haven’t at least googled these things).

But this may literally be the dum(b)est thing any President of the United States has ever said since Trump talked about how to spell the word “dumb” (hint: he didn’t know how to spell the word “dumb - with or without a “b”?! - so he assumed everyone didn’t know how to spell the word “dumb”. That is so dum).

First, when the U.S. economy spends money abroad, it’s not just giving it gratis to other countries. The U.S. gets goods (and/or services” in return.)

In addition, as Krugman explains (in economicsese that can sometime be a bit dense) (bold emphasis mine):

the balance of payments always balances. Every purchase by one country is also a sale for another country, regardless of the form of the exchange. It could be (1) goods and services exchanged for goods and services; or (2) goods and services exchanged for assets; or (3) assets exchanged for assets. The form doesn’t matter: every purchase involves a corresponding sale.

So for the nation as a whole, we have an accounting identity for international transactions:

Sales of domestic goods and services to foreigners + Sales of domestic assets to foreigners = Domestic purchases of foreign goods and services + Domestic purchases of foreign assets

If we took a highly simplified example, in which the only two countries in the world are the U.S. and China, we might say that:

Sales of US wheat to China + Sales of US Treasury bills to China = US purchases of Shein clothing + US purchases of Chinese stocks

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With this language simplification, we can rearrange the accounting identity of international transactions to arrive at this:

Sales of assets – Purchases of assets = Purchases of goods – Sales of goods

Applied to the U.S., the left side of this equation is our net capital inflows -- the excess of foreigners’ investment in US assets over our investment in foreign assets. The right side of the equation is our trade deficit – the excess of our purchases of foreign goods over foreign purchases of American goods. Hence:

Net capital inflows into the U.S. = U.S. trade deficit

Pay attention to the section at the end that I bolded. Essentially, our trade deficit - spending more overseas for goods/services than overseas countries pend in the U.S. - is equal to the net positive investment other countries make in the U.S.

Krugman explains this in more easily understood terms below:

Why has the US run persistent trade deficits? The accounting identity doesn’t give a clear answer because it cannot reveal what causes what. Do we have a trade deficit because we have a highly innovative economy that attracts foreign investment? or do we have to borrow from foreigners because we have a trade deficit?

In the modern world economists generally subscribe to the former explanation: foreign capital flows, seeking higher rates of return in the US, have driven the US trade deficit. The underlying mechanism runs through the value of the dollar. It looks like this:

1. Foreigners want to invest in America

2. To do so foreigners must acquire dollars

3. Foreign demand for dollars drives the dollar up relative to other currencies

4. The higher value of the dollar relative to other currencies makes U.S. production more expensive and less competitive compared to foreign production

5. The end result is a U.S. trade deficit

This guy is the President of the United States. If he doesn’t understand this basic rule of economics, he has people available to him who do (or should if he didn’t pick sycophantic ignoramuses to provide him with advice).

This may be the most classic exhibition of Dunning -Kruger effect ever. For those who don’t know,

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias that describes the systematic tendency of people with low ability in a specific area to give overly positive assessments of their ability.

Yet no one in the media questions his truly idiotic and stupid statement on this.

Oh, this very dumb individual also lied about his class standing at the undergraduate (not graduate) Wharton School program at the Uiversity of Pennsylvania. Trump claimed he graduated first in his class. Nope (he didn’t even make the Dean’s List or graduate with any honors):

Not only is he doing his best to destroy our country, he’s stunningly dum(b). It’s obvious and needs to be explicitly pointed out ad nauseum.

Nirvana - Dumb

Bonus song since - yeah - I’m a Grateful Dead guy:

Grateful Dead - Ship of Fools

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mister mixAuthor1 month ago

He also thinks you're a sucker if you pay for something so that's part of his stupid idea that you lose money when you pay for goods and services.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 month ago

Exactly!

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago

Yet another catch and kill. Deep sigh.

"Universal Is Getting Cold Feet on Releasing the Elon Musk Documentary - The Comcast-owned studio is not yet committing to rolling out Alex Gibney's movie that it paid millions to acquire for non-North American release before the political winds shifted."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/elon-musk-movie-gibney-canceled-universal-1236704232/

"The earliest HBO could air the film is February, given a four-month pay VOD window retained by the filmmakers. By February, Ellison could already control HBO and WBD."

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Ken In MN1 month ago

A way to explain the trade deficit is to say that people in other countries send us useful things that we need in return for us sending them green pieces of paper with pictures of dead guys on them. Or, even worse, electrons representing green pieces of paper with pictures of dead guys on them. So who's getting ripped off here???

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Busted Knee1 month ago

I have a trade deficit with my grocery stores, Amazon, Chewy, and the utilities companies. At work our clients have a deficit with us, we have one with our providers. People do understand this.

Trade and immigration are proxies for another conversation. People, educated professionals in blue cities who are socially liberal, did move all the jobs overseas and reap profits from it while telling everyone else "suck it up racist should have gone to a good school". The economy they created does work for them at the expense of everyone else. You can't do shit about your abuser. Voting won't fix that. What you can do is set the house on fire and lock both of you in it and that's where we are. You're not seeing ignorance or an irrational reaction from people. You're seeing a rational reaction when they realize who they are locked in the house with and what the rules are.

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago

Another song to add to the mood for today! Thanks for the first two of this day so far.

Zappa

https://youtu.be/Y8TKiRo-W4U?si=1QZ6sK-39qbhdAuE

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago(edited)

Here's a good example of how dumb he thinks we are (Dunning Kruger side effect):

"giving $10 to a rich asshole to receive $1 in return is trickle down economics summed up in one 2 minute video:"

https://bsky.app/profile/ndrew.bsky.social/post/3mvptivur222h

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C P1 month ago

Sadly, it's the kind of stupid that millions of people take to heart, largely because it fits an existing and comfortable narrative of "shifty foreigners are always trying to take advantage of our big-hearted generosity!"

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago(edited)

Twain! I have his complete works in a vintage early 1900s collection with some illustrations, found in a thrift shop.

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."

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C P1 month ago

I still haven't even read Huckleberry Finn.

Tom Sawyer I read when I was a child, and A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court is still on a shelf waiting to be read.

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago

I share his birthday - he's not everyone's cuppa T, but I adore him. Especially this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science_(book)

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago

Here's a Canadian lamenting her new inability to sell original creative works in the U.S. I'm reposting from earlier because it matches my mood today. And it's a whole entire thread explaining what goes on with tariffs/trade for an artist with most buyers being a U.S. audience.

https://bsky.app/profile/effinbirds.com/post/3mvpxebg76c2v

This is another place where I would post a meme of little bunny on her walkie talkie: "WTF, over!"

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TBone Dinosaur1 month ago

I'm thinking about some early business accounting classes I took.

Assets = Liabilities + Equity

It's a concept that isn't hard to grasp when balancing books. But first you have to actually know what books are, hahaha.

Teh stoopid it burns!

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green goblin1 month ago

The MM will never say a word about the lies let alone ad nauseum. The fucking NYT couldn't shut up about Mamdani checking boxes on his Columbia application for both SE Asian and AA (*born in Uganda) both true, but this? No way. It's the great orange one lying so they will just move on. And let it hang out there as true.