This is a UNH poll that was in the field around the time of the shitposting stories, but before the Nazi tattoo story. Even if it’s off by 10%, the 100%-name-recognition-reasonably-popular Governor of the state getting whomped by someone who was unknown a couple of months ago sends a hell of a message. Presumably, Schumer’s internal polls showed similar results. So what is there to do other than pour millions into Mills’ campaign?

I realize that Platner’s campaign is probably over, but this race continues to fascinate me as an example of the quiet but vicious battle that’s happening in the Democratic Party right now. The Establishment, Old Guard, Gerontocracy — call it what you wish — wants a couple more years of power, damn the cost to party or country. So the part of the New York delegation that’s bought and paid for by Wall Street, crypto and AI do to Platner what they’re doing to Mamdani. They ignore the obvious sentiment of the base in an attempt to cling to power.

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John S.1 year ago

Karolyin’ Leavitt actually told the truth yesterday:

“At this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the president’s main priority.”

That should run on an endless loop and be repeated by Democrats from now until next November.

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John S.1 year ago

I have no doubt that the establishment moved hard against Platner. But in this case, better that they did now before a Republican did it next year.

I’m 100% for Democrats moving towards younger and more populist candidates. But we have got to at least do the minimal job of vetting these people before catapulting them onto the national stage.

Horking up Nazi clowns as failed candidates is Republican business. We don’t need to eat into their market share.

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Paul W.1 year ago

I don't think Platner's campaign is dead, just judging by continued town hall turnout and the strengthening of his left flank by Bernie and like-minded folks who just see red when there is an anointed Schumer candidate (rightly so, imo). He's also got a bigger warchest than Mills.

Maybe this all takes a toll in subsequent quarters but he has at least 3 months of life in him, and could still go the whole distance to election day if what this poll says is even half true.

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Paul W.1 year ago

Mills has no policy page, literally have no idea what she stands for and I don't see a strategy for how she is going to sell herself as a Senate candidate (her governor days are a whole different ballgame). Most of the Dem base (left and moderate) is scared shitless about losing this race and putting a 79 year old "echoes of Biden" seems to generate no buzz.

As long as Platner is getting hundreds or thousands of people to turn up in a pretty small state he is going to be winning votes even if he loses the internet. https://x.com/AnthonyMEmerson/status/1981415426597990842

My question is: what happens if he gets nominated? Do all the people who say his tattoo and reddit comments are a non-starter just walk away and cede the Senate to the GOP?

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Most of the Dem base (left and moderate) is scared shitless about losing this race and putting a 79 year old "echoes of Biden" seems to generate no buzz.

Yep. What I see in the poll is an incredible desire from Dems for a dynamic, younger candidate, not specifically support for Platner.

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Paul W.1 year ago

100%, but if no alternative surfaces then that energy won't leave him.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

Daira for Maine. I know that she does not give you the lobster vibes that you crave, but the very military defenseness of this ad while also Gaza and these groceries are too expensive. I think maybe a little too much is going on in one ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eRx4TAYtS4

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Man that ad is all over the place and not very clear, plus the "send receipts" thing is, hmm.

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John S.1 year ago

Yeah, way too much going on. She needs to pick a lane and drive in it for a bit before shifting lanes. She’s all over the highway.

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John S.1 year ago

If the good people of Maine want to stand by Platner, that’s up to them.

I find him to be inauthentic.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Me too.

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TXG1112 1 year ago

My only real criticism of Mills (other than I wish she were younger) is that she still supports the filibuster. I don’t really want to defend Schumer here, but from what I’ve read, Platner isn’t a good candidate and wouldn’t actually be a good progressive Democrat. Winning the Maine senate seat is more important that any intra-party fighting and Schumer’s risk aversion seems to have been warranted here. Having said all that, we are only in this position because of Dem institutional fecklessness so I’m not planning on giving Schumer any actual credit here.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

My only real criticism of Mills (other than I wish she were younger) is that she still supports the filibuster.

This is incredibly disqualifying and also a terrible indicator of what Schumer is thinking if Dems take back the Senate.

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Paul W.1 year ago

Primarying him in 2028 is critical, and replacing him as leader would hopefully be something we can do for 2026 or we will just completely fail to hold Trump accountable if (fingers crossed) we luck into taking back the Senate.

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TXG1112 1 year ago

I dislike Schumer as much as the next person, but primarily him is very unrealistic. We might be able to get a better D leader, but one of the main reasons we are so fucked is that so many incumbent Democrats are worthless institutionalists, so expecting them to change is going to end up in disappointment.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

Worthless institutionalists who were asked to run by Schumer

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Paul W.1 year ago

I don't follow how you express the second sentence but your conclusion in the first arrives. Yes, institutionalists suck and are not popular with the Dem party. As such, Schumer is very vulnerable (especially if AOC were to run as speculated) and SHOULD be primaried regardless of the outcome in order to change his wrongheaded "worthless" thinking.

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TXG1112 1 year ago

It sure is. If I had to guess, Schumer is thinking Mills has the best chance to win and wants that seat as a D irrespective of what her policy positions are. It’s not like Schumer is good on the filibuster either, but it’s not news that he is an awful institutional hack. I’m not agreeing with Schumer here, but I get his reasoning.

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John S.1 year ago

We have a name for people like Schumer. We call them schmucks.