The blue wave happened. What comes next?

Based on my time spent on the Hill during three campaigns, one thing is abundantly clear: for the vast majority of elected officials in DC, job protection/self-preservation is the primary motivator for their actions.

Now, Trump is a special case. He is now a lame-duck and cannot run again. Besides that fact, he is also a mentally ill malignant narcissist whose views and actions are guided by very specific psychological needs. Trump is all about two things: 1) sating his malignant narcissism by having to place himself at the center of everything, and 2) saying and doing whatever his lizard brain needs to keep him one step ahead of the carnage he’s previously created.

Also, remember, Trump was actually a Democrat for most of his adult life (although he clearly has no actual firm policy positions - its all about whatever he thinks will help him in the short term).

So, is it possible he might “work with Democrats” as he told the New York Times on election night? Possibly, even if it seems far fetched. He is a wild-card and will do whatever his lizard brain needs to keep from experiencing narcissistic collapse.

Let’s turn our attention back to the rest of elected Republicans in DC.

We are already seeing stories about the increased likelihood of impeaching Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, even before Democrats take control of Congress. And not only from Democrats - several Republicans are starting to pile on as well.

Mister Mix gave us a great take on how putrid a person and politician JD Vance is based on Vance’s rationale for the election results. However, to me, the most incredible thing is simply Vance’s willingness to publicly break with the person who more than any other politician in memory demands complete and utter one-way loyalty - Donald Trump (which, to be clear, is exactly what Vance did).

Republicans in congress and JD Vance see the writing on the wall. Trump’s time has come and gone (although he can and will be dangerous for the next two years - he is still President after all). And, again, self-preservation rules all.

Let me be clear. I don’t expect Republicans in Congress to “moderate” their views or beliefs. In fact, the remaining members who were elected or reelected are likely more extreme in super-safe gerrymandered districts. However, there may be enough Republicans - who do not view themselves as super-safe - to allow Democrats to start moving the needle in our direction with some self-preservation minded defecting Republicans when congress reconvenes.

Likely? Who knows. But it would not surprise me.

As for Schumer, Jeffries and institutional Democratic leadership, I’m with Kevin M. Kruse on this:

Democratic Leadership will do and say what Democratic leadership wants to do and say. But it is the committee chairs like Jamie Rasking and Robert Garcia who will drive the agenda. And they seem to be all in on accountability.

We all need to take a deep breath and see how the Democrats’ plans take shape. And if the people need to push, we will.

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TBone Dinosaur1 hour ago

There is no "working with" people who care about nothing but cruelly punishing those "below." Their track record on veracity and trustworthiness is zilch. I'll not ever offer up a centimeter of soft, white underbelly to those bloodthirtsy scavengers. Sometimes in this old world, there just can't be forgive and forget.

Nope.

Lucy always yanks the football away.

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TBone Dinosaur58 minutes ago(edited)

"allow Democrats to start moving the needle"

Just step on the fucking pedal, no permission required. Move fast and build things (legislation, relationships, plans, preparation, investigations, etc.) Mamdani showed how that's done.

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Joe is Wypoxic10 minutes ago

Full agreement - see comment reply above

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TBone Dinosaur35 minutes ago

The Revenge Tour is coming like a jail on wheels.

"And then there’s 2028, where Democrats first need to win the vote despite Trump and Vance abusing power to tilt the election to the Republican nominee. Then Democrats, pro-democracy Americans more broadly, and whatever’s left of U.S. institutions will probably have to overcome a coup attempt. Trump and Co. tried last time they lost a presidential election, and ended up more rewarded than punished, so they’ll likely try again. They’ve had years to think about their 2020-21 failure, they’re more above the law now, and tech oligarchs such as Elon Musk—who’ve gotten a taste of national power, and might go to jail or at least lose a lot of money if their corrupt Republican allies lose office—will have greater incentive to help. That shouldn’t be, it’s very wrong, yet here we are."

The whole thing is a good read

https://www.arcdigital.media/p/massive-midterm-rebuke-still-more

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TBone Dinosaur22 minutes ago

"Democrats should use their midterm-provided leverage to fight Trump’s abuses of power. For example, refuse to pass a budget unless Trump fires Vought (because what’s the point of passing a budget the White House won’t follow?) Use leverage over the military budget to demand an end to the illegal, failing Iran war and the illegal, strategically pointless campaign of bombing boats in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific.

There are many possibilities, and multiple things should be done at once, but whichever Democrats choose to prioritize, they should see themselves as an opposition party. Their mandate is to check a corrupt, criminal president, not to somehow become responsible for governing despite White House abuses."

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Joe is Wypoxic10 minutes ago

I agree TBone. My point was more that maybe a few Republicans might actually go along with Democratic priorities and initiatives if they think it might save their own skin in a post-MAGA post-Trump world...

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C P1 hour ago

I'm a bit skeptical about things like impeachments actually happening. Republicans have a record, when metaphorically punched in the face, of reeling and saying some things they maybe don't mean, but then collecting themselves and closing ranks again. Cooperating with Democrats against Republicans remains the cardinal sin of GOP politics, and it's hard for me to picture them impeaching Hegseth or Rubio for that reason. Pressuring Trump to fire them sure, but impeachment is a step too far.

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C P1 hour ago

Trump is a bully and a malignant narcissist. Bullies tend to cave when figuratively (or literally) punched in the face.

I've said for years now that anyone could have destroyed Trump's political career in one moment simply by 1) walking across the debate stage to him, 2) bitch-slapping him right in his stupid face, 3) walking back to his place while visibly laughing, and 4) never apologizing.

There's a reason nobody's heard anything about Richard Spenser in nearly a decade.

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Kay W.1 hour ago

I’m willing to wait and see. I think Jeffries has more in him than many Lefties believe he has / we’ll see. I don’t envy him. Hard job. If you want a laugh go watch Donald Trump lead reporters around his stupid ballroom, showing them the marble he bought. He has that east coast trashy rich person drawl where they love the sound of their own voice. They’re always such bores and he’s no different “look at the MARBLE” yeah, no thanks. We’re busy.

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mister mixAuthor1 hour ago

Hegseth makes a great scapegoat for the war, so I'm guessing he'll be fired before he gets impeached. If only Hegseth had competently executed Trump's war against Iran, blah blah blah will be the excuse.

LOL that Rubio is in a much better position than Vance for 2028. He can quit now and then play the "Trump, who was that?" game that Republicans are going to try in 2028 a lot better than Juicy Divan.

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C P1 hour ago

Nah, I don't believe for a second that Rubio's better positioned than Vance for 2028. Vance knows how to hate in a way Rubio just doesn't.

We also still have no idea what Trump's going to do for 2028.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 hour ago

My view is Rubio is a lightweight and will fold/fail under pressure. Vance is just a smarmy douchebag who no one will like...

someone else will emerge...

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mister mixAuthor34 minutes ago

Jeb! He's tanned, rested and ready!

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Ken In MN2 hours ago

JD Couch-defiler Vance can run all he wants, but, like the Orcs of Mordor, there is no escaping the giant chasm that opens in the earth as Donald Sauron Trump's tower collapses...

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Joe is Wypoxic1 hour ago

Not only do I totally agree with you, Ken but any comment is infinitely better when using an LOTR analogy 💪

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Sepideh M2 hours ago

I hope that you are correct and Marco Rubio steps down. That would take a potential war with Cuba off the table.

It is shameful that Pete Hegseth turned our military into a white nationalist experiment, destroying military readiness while starting mindless wars, dropping the biggest bombs, and threatening to televise an execution by firing squad.