First, bon voyage to Mister Mix and spouse as they head to Mexico. As the weather turns here in the mountain west (snow on the ground this morning), I envy the “drive down to warmth”.

Second, I had my Covid booster yesterday and I feel like shit today. Seems like I pay the price for 48 hours or so every time. Flu-like achiness. F*ck.

Third, in response to Mister Mix’s post this morning titled “Blackmail”, in which he wrote, “And it’s notable that Newsom says that wealth taxes are a non-starter.”, I’d like to point out that we already have a well-established wealth tax in this country. It’s called “property taxes”.

Think about it - we are taxed on the value of our property (fair market value where I live) even though we have not realized that “value” as long as we live in the home we own and even though the “value” of that home might decrease in the future. Even CA with Prop 13 still has some tax on unrealized property value. This is no different than the wealth of a billionaire oligarch that is primarily stored in company stock (that may have appreciated and that may go down someday).

We need to collectively start referring property taxes as a wealth tax whenever wealth taxes - and the argument that they are unfair because they are based on unrealized wealth - come up. if regular everyday homeowners have to pay a wealth tax, then billionaires can find a way to pay an augmented wealth tax as well.

Reminder - Musk and Ellison and Bezos are worth roughly $400 billion each. If someone earned $1 million tax free and was able to keep it all every year, it would take 400,000 years to amass $400 billion. No one should be that wealthy.

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TXG1112 1 year ago

On a separate note, I am always dumbfounded at people who live in some of the most expensive towns in NJ who complain about their real estate taxes. I always reminds them that their high taxes pay for their (very good) public schools which is why they paid over a million $ for a house in suburban NJ in the first place. It helps maintain the value of what is likely the most expensive thing they will ever own.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

In PA we had a lengthy court battle over "unconstitutional" school funding and how property taxes are distributed. As usual, the solution sounded great, but the actual results ("hold harmless" clause) did little to solve the problem. Some of the poorer munis here are taxed at higher rates than their wealthier neighbors. And now that we still have a budget impasse, everyone is losing.

It's complicated, but The Inky does a great explainer.

https://www.inquirer.com/education/inq2/how-pennsylvania-school-district-funding-formula-works-20230906.html

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TXG1112 1 year ago

I get where you’re going with this, but since real estate taxes mostly pay for local public schools, and local school quality determines the value of your property, it’s just another method of reinforcing wealth inequality.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 year ago

That’s my point TX. If we can use wealth taxes to reinforce that inequality in a local level, we should be able to use wealth taxes to reduce inequality on a larger level. BTW, in my state property taxes are sent to the state, which then determines a formula for how it goes out those taxes back to school districts to try and equalize things amongst Districts.

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Scott H1 year ago

Wow! That's damn near...socialist. And in your state of all states.

Probably easier to do in your state since practically nobody lives there. :P

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Joe is Wypoxic1 year ago

Hahaha

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TXG1112 1 year ago

As much as I agree with this as a policy, it would be an absolute political loser in NJ where I live. Paying for better schools via taxes is very entrenched and even ordinary middle class homeowners in mid priced towns would be against it.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 year ago

I grew up in Westchester County just north of NYC. it would never fly there either.

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TXG1112 1 year ago

I did too. If anything it’s even worse (and more necessary) there than Bergen County where I am.

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Scott H1 year ago

We talk about income inequality (or whatever label we want to attach to the current massive wealth gap in the country) and it always comes back to two things:

40 Years of Reaganomics as evidenced by neoliberal/corporate influence on government and the resulting catastrophe for most people.

40 Years of Reaganomics as it's impacted the tax code. Everything should start with the tax code but as we've seen, barring a lot of tumbrels, it's hard to see how that'll change.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 year ago

Spot on Scot! Regan severed the tie and most people’s minds between government services and paying one’s taxes. He also took the crockpot theory we all known as trickle down and brought it mainstream. He is the genesis of where we are today when it comes to gross inequality.