David Shor, who began work on the Obama campaign and has become an often-quoted Democratic pollster, made news earlier this year when he made the following claim:

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During his conversation with [Ezra] Klein, Shor shared evidence that Trump won among white men, white women, and men of color under 26, while Harris only secured majority support from women of color in this age group. “Among 18-year-olds, women of color are the only of the four that Harris won,” Shor explained, “Trump narrowly won nonwhite men,” suggesting a significant realignment among young voters that contradicts long-held assumptions about the Democratic party’s strength with young voters.

A group of political scientists at the Tufts Public Opinion Lab took a look at available data and come to a different conclusion. First, they acknowledge that the under-26 group is very hard to poll. "They’re less responsive to surveys, more mobile (frequently changing addresses), and have inconsistent turnout patterns.”

With that caveat, they examined some high-quality polling and came to a different conclusion than Shor. Here’s what they saw using the data from two high-quality surveys:

They also looked at exit polls and also found widespread youth support for Harris there, far above what Shor presented.

As you can see from those two graphs, there’s definitely a big difference between two high-quality surveys, but the key point is that those surveys showed their work. Shor doesn’t — he’s known for keeping his methodology and data under wraps.

I don’t know if Shor is pulling tricks or just got different results using reasonable methodology. But I do know that he has an agenda: he was part of the Harris campaign, and was one of the creators of the “popularism” stuff. So, in the past when I saw his name, I was skeptical. Now, I’m even more skeptical after reading the Tufts’ piece.

I got this from Jamell Bouie’s BlueSky feed:

Bouie strikes me as a pretty reasonable guy, and he is no fan of Shor.

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Scott H1 year ago

All Shor has been doing is finding ways to explain away his craptastic role in the Harris campaign so that next time around, he can continue to pull in the sweet, sweet consulting dough.

He is no good faith source and it kills me to see progressives lap up his shit.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

AI will be the next big thing for consultants and pols if it's not already. It's all so hinky. Today I saw it "explain" (please pardon the crude, it was said in a political blog comment regarding AI) 'two in the pink, one in the stink' as a method of putting shoes on a human.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I finally figured out how exactly to shut down the irritating "Gemini" assistance thingy on my phone today after reading a bunch of other AI commentary.

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John S.1 year ago

Consultants never stop selling. Their livelihood is based on them possessing secret knowledge that nobody else has and charging handsomely for access.

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owlbrick 1 year ago

As a coworker of mine is wont to say, a consultant is someone who will borrow your watch to tell you what time it is.

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Joe is Wypoxic1 year ago

I was a first wave "Red-to-Blue" House candidate in '08. One prereq of being named was I had to hire DCCC preferred consultants for media, polling, direct mail. I ended up dismissing two out of the three - they seemingly didn't have any interest in the specifics/dynamics of my race (in a deep red state) - only in their "tried and true" methods regardless of whether they had been successful or not. I now counsel others to stay away from "DC Consultants" and hire local/regional folks with a track record of success AND knowledge of one's specific race dynamics...

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Kay W.1 year ago

Interesting. Makes sense local would be better.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Interesting. I'm betting that the DCCC didn't recommend the A team since they judged your race as not a close one.

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d c1 year ago

Fucking White people, especially men, but women too. WTF?

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Marmot Pimpernel 1 year ago

For any real understanding beyond the broadest category, we need to look at who among White people is driving the overall average so much toward Trump. The big factors there, as far as I’ve seen, are education, religion, and rural/urban. I’d love to see anything further—small business ownership, for example.

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Chat Noir1 year ago

I checked my age demo (late 50s white women). Very disappointed. My adolescent years were under Reagan and yet I still turned out liberal. (I tend to see that early Gen Xers's voting patterns were influenced by Reagan)

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Marmot Pimpernel 1 year ago

That bit about Reagan (and Alex P. Keaton) is the same lore I heard. I don’t really trust it, but I have few alternatives. Raucous post-Soviet-breakup triumphalism in the ‘90s is my favorite. But I’d also consider South Park, Bill Maher, etc.