As I wrote here, I have joined two new opposition groups in the county where I live. There are only thirty thousand people in the county and I’ve been active politically in the Democratic Party here for 25 years, so I know many of my new best friends are not actually Democrats. They’re sort of liberal-leaning but centrist, formerly normie…voters. What we have in common is we loathe Donald Trump. That’s enough for me!

So they’ve set up a Signal group which still seems sort of cloak and dagger and dramatic to me, but whatever, these are their groups and they make the rules. The thing is they post on our Signal group all the time and a lot of it is the sort of mild misinformation that normies talk about.

An example of the shit they post, from yesterday:

“Congress must participate in Social Security with the American people”

“Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just like Americans do”

“Congress must lose their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people”

They’re all high fiving this call to arms and almost none of it is true. Congress has participated in Social Security since 1984. Members of Congress do purchase their own retirement plan, if by “purchase” we mean “contribute to” and we do mean that. Congress already participates in the same health care system as the American people.

I would submit that these kinds of mild anti government invented narratives where we’re all called to resent Congress for getting paid are just as corrosive to “good government” among normie centrists as Obama’s birth certificate was to the far Right.

I haven’t responded to any of it yet. I’m blunt and I “write short” (even more so in text messages or emails) and I want these people to stay in the active opposition and perhaps even become voting Democrats so I may just let it ride in order not to offend them. But boy is it pernicious.

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Gloria DryGarden 1 year ago

I'm glad you're writing here; I'll comment later on your content. Dropping in from lurking at a top 10,000 blog to say there is an Ohio meet up, they don't know how to reach you to invite you. The thread posting about it is today Wed. The meetup, should you wish to attend is proposed for may 17, lunch ish, in Columbus, perhaps at planks bier garden. They're collecting rsvps to see if date needs to be adjusted. Forgive me. Thanks for what you're writing here.

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Kay W.1 year ago

Hi Gloria - Thanks for letting me know

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Linda Carruthers1 year ago

You are right about the nature of this misinformation. It’s hard to shift, but it can be done. Problem is it takes a generation.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

PBS highlights the proper method used for grilling to perfection on the House floor:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-this-is-amateur-hour-rep-horsford-blasts-u-s-trade-rep-after-trump-tariff-pause

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

A really good explainer of why Elno sold X to Grok

https://youtu.be/LpgNHaCuu44

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Aha, the dastardly plan.is almost complete...the DOJ Division on tax criming is now kaputt

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/doge-to-shutter-doj-tax-division/sharetoken/86f023ca-b4a0-4bb4-9e09-df7e05237d43

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

"If you make more than, say, a million dollars a year, paying taxes is probably going to be voluntary going forward."

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Tam R1 year ago

Is there a way to say to reach out to the person who created this chat and sort of play dumb and tell them you were so upset you researched the statements and then report what you found out (provide some links)?

The one that I want to see is a better enforcement and more teeth for the Stock Act. We need to include the executive and better monitor whether the president is manipulating markets or in any way making it possible for donors, foreign countries, etc to benefit. I suspect there is some insider trading going on with Trump.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

He recently pardoned a corporation, first time it's ever been done. It was, of course!, crypto crime. He also pardoned white collar crypto criminal individuals, and to put the cherry on top, has instructed the DOJ to not investigate and/or prosecute crypto crime anywhere. Not coincidentally, he has his own crypto where beibes from anywhere can be "laundered."

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Bribes - fat finger typo apology

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Tam R1 year ago

It’s so corrupt.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Check THIS out, right there in plain sight grrrrrrrr

"Trump tells his followers to buy stock in the morning, minutes after the market opens, then announces he is pausing tariffs 4 hours later.

Nothing to see here."

https://bsky.app/profile/ronfilipkowski.bsky.social/post/3lmfkvkuvks2w

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Tam R1 year ago

Help! How do we ever hold him accountable??

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I'm certain that my financial advisor is using Donold to make money - I got transaction notices that say so.

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r po1 year ago

My wife and I have experienced this pernicious disinfo crap from life long D voters. We have tried as gently as possible to lightly direct their vision back to reality and it is completely impossible. In fact, it's more likely to get some polite version of "yer liars" or "you're so silly" than anything else.

I have to admit if I got all my "info" from the plutocratic news outlets we'd be misinformed too.

There is no value whatsoever socially to being immersed in reality. Modern life.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

On my first blog, I had a conservative who was thoughtful and commented a lot. Interestingly, he was very down on the "our electeds are getting too much from us" narrative. The way he phrased it was something like "do they want them to ride a unicycle and dress in a flour sack?" He was all for paying decent salaries to elected officials.

The reason I remember it is because his attitude was uncommon.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I very much admire people who can stay quiet despite the "need to be correct" that is so prevalent in some places.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

We need not attend every argument we are invited to. What if they gave a War and nobody showed up? We could beat swords into plowshares. Ah, my sweet, summer child has found her tiny voice again hahahaha