This was discussed in the comments yesterday, but I wanted to have a post about it because it sums up some of the absurd overcharging and ICE protection that’s going on in the fascist Trump administration:

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Kat Abughazaleh, a progressive candidate for Congress, has been indicted on federal charges related to her participation in protests outside an ICE processing facility near Chicago in September.

The indictment, filed last week, alleges that the 26-year old Palestinian American candidate and five other individuals “physically hindered and impeded” a federal agent who was “forced to drive at an extremely slow rate of speed to avoid injuring any of the conspirators”.

Abughazaleh, who is running for Illinois’s ninth congressional district to replace the outgoing Democrat Jan Schakowsky, was charged with conspiracy to forcibly impede or injure a federal agent, and assaulting or impeding the agent while they were performing official duties.

It’s bullshit, but I want to discuss something related. ICE is a 100% rogue police force, but none of the Democratic governors and mayors who are going to fight ICE deployment in their states also have a rogue police force. There’s just too much MAGA and thin blue line solidarity in the state and local cops for any governor to count on them to protect citizens from ICE.

I’m guessing that some cops might be moved to enforce the law if ICE has gotten totally out of hand — for example, if they start shooting up residential neighborhoods because residents are blowing whistles when they arrive. But they’ve already tear gassed a children’s Halloween parade in Chicago with little consequence.

Most cops in the US have been throwing a prolonged pout since the George Floyd protests, even though they are awarded copious overtime, extremely generous pensions, and mainly get away with a lot of terrible behavior except for egregious, obvious murder of innocents. So I’m guessing that many of them support ICE.

I was at a state park yesterday and one of the Law Enforcement Rangers was out of his pickup to work on something and left his radio on. It was tuned to some right-wing station that was informing listeners that if AOC is elected President she’ll make everyone do awful things. I was not surprised at all, in fact, I’d have been shocked if he was listening to anything else. That’s the reality we’re facing: no serving and protecting from these guys.

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C P1 year ago

The solidarity between cops of all roles and backgrounds is a real problem. It's one of the consequences of the national homogenization of the right, but also feels like the result of the half-done professionalization of the police force in the twentieth century, which largely amounted, like so many things, to unilateral disarmament for the left-of-center.

If you plopped Wyatt Earp or someone from that era in a modern American city and asked him how Democrats could get the cops under control, his answer would be simple: fire the cops, every last one of them, and hire a bunch of new cops drawn from the Antifa crowd more sympathetic to your politics. That's how party politics worked in the old west; if one gang controls the town, get your own gang. The hired guns may be assholes either way, but it in fact makes quite a bit of difference whether they fought for the Confederacy or against it, and whether their patronage network leads back to its successors in Washington or their enemies!

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C P1 year ago

Today, you could never do that. Civil service protections aside, replace the Newscorp-swilling knuckledraggers in uniform with Antifa types, and the universal outcry no matter how blue the city would be that you're replacing our brave boys in blue with criminals. The uniform-worship is too strong; instead of actually having a professional police force, we've settled for fantasizing that the one we have now is that police force, and anyone they don't like must inherently mean the end of all law and order.

"But wouldn't Antifa cops be abusive too?" Oh God yeah. "But aren't you just replacing a right-wing militia with a left-wing militia?" Yes! That's what you want! Attempts to create an impartial and apolitical police force have failed miserably. This way, every law and reform we pass doesn't depend on the Republicans' private army for its enforcement, and liberal politicians, activists, or just constituents who are targeted by right-wing violence might actually get some protection!

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John S.1 year ago

Off topic, but Trumpers are now running ads that claim the effort to restore subsidies for healthcare is just a greedy money grab by evil insurance companies. It’s stupid, it’s cynical and it’s probably going to work to change public opinion.

As usual, where is the Democratic response? All we get is weak shit from Schumer and Jeffries.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

Why have the rural hospitals not banded together to run some ads pushing back on this?

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John S.1 year ago

I doubt they have the money. But in the absence of pushback, lies will fill the information void.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Ah yes, the "kernel of truth" method from whence most conspiracy theories spring forth.

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Paul W.1 year ago

For once, I don't agree. It will only work with the MAGA dittoheads, not to mention the constantly changing messaging suggests nothing has stuck thus far and not sure this will either with the broader public... which leads me to my very reluctant endorsement and praise for the messaging and holding caucus line from Jeffries and Schumer (thus far).

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John S.1 year ago

Schumer is already waffling. As we knew he would.

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John S.1 year ago

I don’t expect a grand jury to indict Kat. The charges are ridiculous. But that doesn’t mean she won’t have to fight and waste time and money on bullshit.

I caught the Daily Show segment last night that had Charlemagne tha God. I’m not a huge fan of his, but he was brilliant in tearing down Schumer and Jeffries as shitty leaders for this moment. There seems to be an awful lot of that sentiment out there these days.

But his central point was that we need more younger and energetic Democrats. People like Kat.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Abughazaleh is scheduled to make an initial court appearance next week. Her attorney called the charges “unjust.”

https://apnews.com/article/federal-enforcement-candidate-indicted-ice-kat-abughazaleh-b363792dc6e2e3ca40edaa335b787417

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John S.1 year ago

That’s insane. I would have hoped for jury nullification like we have seen elsewhere in the face of ridiculous charges.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

It was a "special" federal grand jury. I don't know what that means in legalese.

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Scott H1 year ago

Remember the old adage that a grand jury can be cajoled into indicting a ham sandwich.

Thus, the fact a federal grand jury did this after being led along by a Trump prosecutor isn't surprising.

The optics aren't great on this this, pretty, blond, 20-something white woman. Too many people in the gerrymandered western part of IL-09 will see their daughter or granddaughter in her.

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Kay W.1 year ago

Do Kat (and the others) she have a legal fund? I’d like if they took all of these cases to trial. Easy for me to say - hugely disruptive and stressful for them - but a real service to the country to beat Donald Trumps personal police and prosecutors.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

In a video yesterday, Kat said she would provide in person updates on her case (but the golden rule is to never discuss your case with anyone but your attorney!) so if she needs financial assistance I expect she'll say so soon (and I hope she unites with her co-, defendants in that regard).

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Scott H1 year ago

Kat's going head-to-head fundraising with the odious mayor of Evanston. I can't imagine those funds could be used for legal defense. If they could, the odious mayor of Evanston and party establishment would quietly applaud.

If she can't, I'm guessing she'll have no trouble raising funds. I'd toss her some. Nonetheless, such a process could be a significant distraction from being an AOC/Crockett kind of candidate running in an actual AOC/Crockett district.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

The various changes to ICE are making it less and less professional, and I think that maybe our local police officers see themselves as much more professional than ICE.

The firing of ICE leadership is going to lead to directionless and shifts that could take a while. Lowering the physical standards makes them more unprofessional. The way that they cover their faces makes them more unprofessional.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I once worked in a law office for a very nice lawyer except for one thing: we had to.listen Rush fucking Limpballs every gatdang day. Other than that, the gentleman was one of the kindest, sweetest employers I've ever had, go figure. He encouraged me in every way humanly possible and never exhibited any of the behaviors you'd expect from a rabid Rush listener.

Radio days of yute. Pierre Robert was my lunch time palate cleanser!

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I was very young, still just starting out, and learned everything I know about Trusts & Estates from that otherwise sweet, kind, honest guy. He took his work very seriously and was a blessing to many grieving clients.

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John S.1 year ago

Right wing radio was the original brain rot before Fox News and social media.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Yep. The O.G. model.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Off topic but we lost the Last Real DJ, Pierre Robert, and it is not a Great Day in the Morning! The pouring cold rain matches my feels and I don't have anything optimistic to say because everything in this post is spot on. The good cops we do have are outnumbered (I have a lot of experience seeing my dad go through some things as well as from working for the FOPs) and subject to peer pressure and shunning (actually worse but I'm sure people know how that works).

This documentary-type drama story was on TCM last night and the parallels for today made it a horror film for ne, which didn't help my outlook. All star cast, true story. I only watch laughably cheesy horror films as a rule, because real life is already fucking scary enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_Damned

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

We, us, in the U.S. today, are the damned passengers is what frightened me. Watching the stellar actors portray the gamut, those who knew, those that should have known, those in denial, displaying the mixture of emotions and reactions, is exactly what I see in our populace today.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Plus the dirty Nazi tricks, the cowardice displayed by governments, the wheeling and dealing through endless bureaucratic hurdles...

I'm haunted all day

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Marmot Pimpernel 1 year ago

It will come to a head somewhere. Soon, I hope. The contradictions can’t continue forever.

I keep meaning to ask the friendly cop outside my kid’s school if he’d stop ICE or state troopers if they open fire on protesters. I should get him thinking about it.