I think we all may have a least-favorite group of Trump voters. Mine is the MAHA people. It’s the combination of being insufferably smug while also wrong all the time. One of my younger sisters is one of them and while I do love her, I avoid her these days. She was so smart. I don’t know what happened.

RFK Jr is getting a little nervous about this measles outbreak. I suspect he fears that for the first time in his life he may be blamed for something. He will be blamed, and he should be. But right now he’s telling the Wall Street Journal not to worry, that he and his crackpot group of wealthy influencers are ON IT:

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While Kennedy said the federal government had supported the Texas efforts to vaccinate people against measles, his new statement didn’t specifically recommend vaccines or underline their importance in preventing outbreaks, as other public health officials have.

“I would like to see Robert F. Kennedy Jr. stand up and forcefully say that the first child measles death in 22 years is a tragedy, especially because it was preventable and we need to make sure our children are vaccinated,” said Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious disease physician at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.

Yeah, well, good luck with that Dr. Offit. No one in the “wellness space” ever admits an error, but at least there’s this, from the Democrats:

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“We are here to simply say measles can kill, ignorance can kill, and vaccine denial definitely kills,” U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett said during the news conference, adding the need for people to be vaccinated against measles before spring break travels and massive SXSW festival begins.

 

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Linda Carruthers1 year ago

The MAHA ‘movement’ is simply insane, and is unknown in other democracies, even one with a well developed right wing political infrastructure. Three things make the US particularly susceptible to this nonsense imo.

  • Allowing drug manufacturers advertise direct to the general population via broadcast and printed media. This is strictly forbidden elsewhere for good and cogent reasons.
  • Related to 1 but not quite the same, the widespread knowledge that US health care costs are very high and deliver less bang for the buck in health and longevity than other systems. And
  • An unshakeable belief in the right of everyone to be an expert in everything that interests them, because 1A, that’s why.
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    John S.1 year ago

    #1 is especially pernicious. We are now the only country in the world that allows DTC advertising by pharmaceutical companies. New Zealand was the only other one, and even they recently banned this insanity.

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    John S.1 year ago

    Oh lord, do the MAHA folks drive me insane.

    As the parent of an autistic teenager, I have listened with rage as these cretins shouted for years that vaccines caused autism. I’ve even had to endure that nonsense within my own family. And when my teenage daughter was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes, I was treated to another chorus of bullshit.

    My wife is a science teacher, so needless to say, MAHA is like a lead balloon for her as well.

    I’m all for holistic medicine, and I have found things that work wonderfully over the years. But that’s not a substitute for science and modern medicine, because sometimes that shit comes in really handy. I’m not going to chase after some bullshit cure for my daughter, because without insulin, she dies. Neither am I going to list after some magic solution to cure my son, because neurodivergence is not a disease.

    So yeah, fuck these people.

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    Sepideh M1 year ago

    The whole thing is rooted in "We think autistic kids should not exist," and then they wonder why you are annoyed with them.

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    John S.1 year ago

    Eugenics is very popular these days. Adherents just like to pretend they are more enlightened than the Spartans throwing babies off cliffs.

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    Sepideh M1 year ago

    You probably ready NeuroTribes like I did. There was a lot of discussion about autism and the Holocaust in that book.

    Here is an article for people who want to catch up with discussions of Asperger and Nazis.

    https://tidsskriftet.no/en/2019/05/essay/asperger-nazis-and-children-history-birth-diagnosis

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    Pete W.1 year ago

    John S. So sorry to hear about your teenager. Have you seen the recent work about the influence of the gut microbiome on autism? There is some really interesting research looking at the (positive) effects of gut microbiome transplants on autism in young people.

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    Sepideh M1 year ago

    I am very open-minded and dislike anti-vaccine advocates across the entire political spectrum. I am not letting the Democratic anti-vaccine advocates off the hook.

    And I see all the fringe-y religious organizations that are spreading misinformation and harming their people.

    Some of the parents with the newborns that had brain bleeds in Tennessee because they refused the Vitamin K shot at birth were affiliated with the same church I believe.

    https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2013/p1114-newborn-bleeding-disorder.html

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    Kay W.1 year ago

    The "crunchy" MAHAs are often liberals. My sister still considers herself a liberal. She voted for Trump because of RFK Jr. She works with children. I can no longer be around her - its just reprehensible to me.

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    Sepideh M1 year ago

    I tend to be open minded about who is a liberal, but "voted for Trump" usually eliminates a person from that category for me. I am pretty sure we have that type of person around here.

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    Tam R1 year ago

    This is horrifying. We eradicated measles and now children are getting sick and dying of a preventable disease.

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    Kay W.1 year ago

    It is. Its really tragic. About 25% of my law practice is in juvenile courts. It was really heartening to see very young, very low income parents proudly pointing to their careful vaccination care - they saw it as responsible and part of being good parents for the last 30 years. All of that is gone, destroyed by incredibly privileged people like RFK Jr and Joe Rogan. Its now fashionable to pretend to understand vaccines and reject them. Anti vaxxers kill kids. Its just that simple.

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    mister mixAuthor1 year ago

    I believe Dr Offit was the guy I saw on CNN at the gym a week ago. The other person being interviewed was some awful health startup CEO who wasn't openly anti-vaxx, just "presenting another perspective" and talking about healthy diet, etc. The usual cultish sophistry, using a patina of reasonableness to get their foot in the door, and platformed by a news network.