Judge Boasberg has announced that he’ll begin criminal contempt proceedings against some folks in the Trump Administration. Boasberg has announced that he’ll appoint someone to prosecute the contempt charge if the DoJ declines. The part he left out is that Trump can pardon criminal contempt charges, and he most certainly will.

Here’s a good backgrounder from Democracy Docket (Mark Elias’ site) on the limits of contempt charges and what happens if Marshals go rogue. The author, David Noll, concentrates on civil contempt because criminal contempt is pardonable, civil probably is not (again, that won’t stop Trump from trying). He argues that the courts can appoint their own law enforcers to go after those who are cited with civil contempt.

The issue underlying every one of these judicial moves to bring Trump’s lawless DoJ to justice is that we can’t rely on our police forces.

For example, as commenter Sepideh M noted in the last post, some ICE agents smashed the window of a car and dragged out the occupants. They may have gotten the wrong person. So, another proposal floating around (link via Steve M) is for states to arrest ICE agents on kidnapping charges. Since many of these abductions have occurred in blue states, the reasoning goes, the blue state AGs can order those arrests.

Again, this relies on cops, and residing in a blue state doesn’t make cops less Trumpy. Some of them might do it, who knows, but I think city mayors, AGs and governors are going to be reluctant to force a showdown between them and their police forces.

I’m not intending to be a doomer here — I want to look at things clearly. I thought it was a good idea for Sen Von Hollen to go to El Salvador, and unsurprisingly, the Salvadorans wouldn’t let him meet with his constituent Kilmar Abrego García. There’s no sin in trying once and failing, especially with this bunch. Now, if there’s going to be a CODEL, they should try to make a different kind of stink, or push harder.

I think the Garcia imprisonment, and the abduction of people off the streets after smashing windows, are politically bad for Trump, in addition to being morally and legally wrong. So let’s keep pushing in every way possible, expect some defeats, and realize this is a war, not one battle.

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Dennis Doubleday1 year ago

Van Hollen at least got the VP of El Salvador to go on the record that they are holding Garcia because the Trump Admin is paying them to do so--NOT for their own reasons, as Trump is claiming. It was always clear that Bukele would send him back if Trump asked, but so far as I know, nobody in El Salvador had actually said that.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

Yep - this is why you push. They always reveal something.

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Aardbark P.1 year ago

I'm getting on a long flight, so this is a quick hit - and in my usual style, probably cryptic but what the hey. I'm convinced that the practice of going after individual incidents/situations will net out to be ineffective, as the sheer volume makes it difficult to distinguish one outrage from the other. In more conventional times these incidents might have provided a handle to yank on and slow things down, but....

My take is to basically start ramming the ship of state itself by propagating counter-propaganda ("He's Insane" "Republicans Hate America", etc.). I have neither room nor time to provide decent examples, but that's my idea of a better target. I , of course, can be wrong but there's a way to prove it: create generally accessible ad copy and broadcast via social media connections - establish short key phrases. My hand's up, but it's not remotely a solo project. I'm tired of "radical right-wing agenda", "hypocrisy", etc. - it's just not hitting.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

I think the reason that Dems have coalesced around Garcia is because his case is so clear-cut and they aren't afraid that this one will expose them to pushback by Republicans. Now, this isn't all bad: they're doing something, and it's best to pick a good "test case".

More on this point from Steve M: https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2025/04/fascism-goes-mask-off-and-even-james.html

Dems have always struggled with simple messaging, to be fair, sometimes because they want progress and progress is harder to explain and push for. But, yes, in the opposition, especially to the Trump admin, simple counter-propaganda is best.

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Scott H1 year ago

Just look around you at what a "blue" state would do. Mayor Mikey here in Denver wouldn't even try to force the Pohlice Chief to do what you're saying because he'd be afraid it would hurt his political ambitions.

The Aurora mayor had his own dustup with ICE but even during that went on and on about how their pohlice force always work with ICE, love working with ICE, yada, yada, yada.

And the idea that our glibertarian, tech bro governor, would have the State Pohlice do anything like that remains in the realm of science fiction.

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

I would expect a wee bit more from a libertarian but I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

Didn't your mayor actually take in some Venezuelan refugees (or help them) because one of his kids pushed? Will he really want to disappoint his kids? (I'm asking honestly, don't know the answer.)

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Gloria DryGarden 1 year ago

Well the city took in a while zillion of them. Funds. Rec centers. Tye ones across from me seem to be doing quite well. Jobs, nice cars..

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Gloria DryGarden 1 year ago

A whole zillion. And yes, his wife and he befriended one family. That's good, like having an exchange student..makes a difference to that one.

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Gloria DryGarden 1 year ago

Well the city took in a while zillion of them. Funds. Rec centers. Tye ones across from me seem to be doing quite well. Jobs, nice cars..

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Scott H1 year ago

Mayor Mikey's agenda (he's such a white urbanist) was totally hijacked because Abbot in TX was sending tons of Venezuelan refugees here via bus. It basically overwhelmed a new administration that already didn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground.

Mikey was accommodating because, as much as he sucks in most things, he understood what was happening and isn't a soul-less creature. Ambitious, yes, soul-less, no.

But that was different in that it was a state-to-state deal and not even that really given the loosey-goosey nature of what fucking Abbot was doing. It didn't involve going up against the Feds. And while he went back to appear in front of the House, it was all basically political theater. He might not be a proactive participant with ICE but he won't get in their way either.

Our AG and his gubanatorial ambitions might play out differently tho and counter to fucking Polis. Too early to tell.