So I bitch a lot about my Obamacare policy and its limitations, but there are people who buy their insurance on the exchange and have good stories to tell. I heard one a few weeks ago from a family friend. He’s in his mid-50s, retired after selling his business a couple of years ago (the business involved a lot of manual labor, so that makes sense). He does odd jobs around town, but otherwise he doesn’t have much income.

His monthly premium for his policy is around $40-50 after premium credits. A couple of months ago, he had a hypertensive crisis out of the blue. He was hospitalized for days and it took a while to get his blood pressure under control. After he got out of the hospital, he lost a ton of weight and looks good.

If he hadn’t been insured, his retirement would have been destroyed by a major hospital bill. However, he, and probably me, will be paying a lot more for our exchange policies under the Big Billionaire Blowjob.

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Health insurance premiums are going way up next year for people who buy their insurance on Healthcare.gov or the state-based marketplaces, according to an analysis out Friday.

The average person who buys Affordable Care Act insurance will be paying 75% more for their premium, according to the analysis from KFF, a nonpartisan health policy research group.

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This year, instead of talking about rising drug costs or hospital charges, insurance companies were talking about federal policy, Cox says. "Pretty much every insurance company is talking about the expiration of enhanced premium tax credits in the ACA markets."

It turns out that people liked those lower premiums. "The number of people signing up for coverage has more than doubled," says Cox, who directs the Program on the Affordable Care Act at KFF. In January, enrollment hit a record 24 million. That high enrollment helped drive the uninsured rate to its lowest level ever.

The CBO thinks that 8.2 millions people will become uninsured due to the premium spike.

Our friend isn’t a Trumper, but I know a number of them who buy insurance from the exchange, cheap, because anyone who runs an ag business and has a decent accountant looks pretty low income on paper (and probably in fact). I suppose their loyalty to Daddy Trump and the media they consume will just ignore the pain that a number of people will feel, but it’s a big deal.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

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John S.1 year ago

I have relatives who have plans on the exchange and are Trumpers. One is a cancer survivor who is self-employed and wouldn’t even have insurance without it (so he’d either be broke or dead).

As the effects of the BBB start to sink in, they are already seeing premiums increase in their shitty red state. So naturally, they are furious with… Obama. Somehow, it’s all his fault.

Dear Leader hasn’t failed them yet.

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Sepideh M1 year ago

Yes. There was this thing amongst conservatives in red states that Obama was why prescription drug costs went up after the ACA, therefore the ACA was bad.

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Scott H1 year ago

Experiences seem to be wildly divergent on a state-by-state basis. Bill in Portland Maine over at Daily Kos is alive today because of the ACA and how it's administered in Maine seems to be the gold standard.

Here in CO, it's shit based on half a dozen friends who looked into it. All the state exchange does is give your name to hard-sellers with shitty product that's expensive and they hound you to death.

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C P1 year ago

It was good enough here in Maryland (and certainly night and day compared with Florida's "if you get sick, better die quick" model that I was coming from). But my memory is that the best version of it was when I was completely jobless and went on Medicaid. Once you got on a private health plan, the subsidies were nice, but the bureaucratic bullshit that comes from interacting with the insurer is still a gigantic pain in the ass. Which is pretty much what you'd expect from a public vs private insurer. (And why I wanted a public option in the ACA).

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John S.1 year ago

Ah yes, yet another reason to hate Florida. I salute you on your escape, fellow escapee.

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C P1 year ago

It's not my native state (though I do have a lot of family there), but I did my grad school years there.

Having a coworker die from a recurring condition that he couldn't treat properly because he didn't have health insurance pretty much convinced me I had no interest in living there.

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John S.1 year ago

I wasn’t born there, but like many New Yorkers in the early 80s, we moved there when I was a wee lad.

I spent the next 40 years there. It was actually really nice in the 80s and 90s. The weather was milder, there were way less people and the state actually elected Democrats. And then we ended up with Jeb!

The 2000s is when Florida started really going downhill. The politics got redder and redder. The people came in droves. The weather got hotter and more humid. Literally everything all went to shit all at once in multiple ways. Hearing Kay talk about Ohio reminds me of Florida.

I left 3 1/2 years ago and I am never looking back.

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C P1 year ago

Despite what I said, as late as when I left (2015), I was still hopeful for the place. After all, Obama had won it twice. There were signs that the younger generation of Cubans might be turning into a normal voting demographic rather than carrying on their elders' demented grudges. It was becoming more urbanized, more diverse, and more educated, usually a good sign. I had no interest in sticking around, but I thought it was still evolving and that in, say, twenty years it might actually be fit for human habitation.

Unfortunately, the last ten years showed it taking a hard right turn that at this point I don't see it bouncing back from.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

I am anticipating that our state exchange will become enshittified to resemble the Colorado model.

P.S. Governor Shapiro was recently pilloried for going on Ted Nugent's podcast because he wanted to center his "you can now shoot deer on Sundays in PA" credentials.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

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Scott H1 year ago

Shapiro's gonna be another shitty center-right, 'abundance' pol with eyes toward a presidential run in 28. He and Newsom are cut from the same cloth.

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John S.1 year ago

Shapiro sucks. I was glad when Harris didn’t pick him to be her running mate. Democrats need to learn one simple lesson: pander to the Democratic base or go home.

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Scott H1 year ago

I too was glad when Harris didn't pick him. OTOH, if she had, at least now he'd have some loser stank on him which might preclude a presidential run in 28.

Because, they message will be the usual doubling down on that element of the Dem Party he represents (and other Dems like Slotkin), saying Harris didn't fight hard enough for the center or center-right, if only she'd picked somebody like Shapiro, stop talking about trans people, blah, blah, blah.

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John S.1 year ago

The base cannot be failed, it can only fail politicians!

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mister mixAuthor1 year ago

I bought off the CO exchange and it's not as good as NY but it's not terrible. The massive downside is that it is CO only and emergency care everywhere else. My NY Blue Choice plan would let you use Blue Choice providers all over the US.

What your friends might have done is gotten into the claws of a scammy "we can get you insurance on the exchange" agent who advertise on the Internet. I did that and yes, the calls were endless and it was a high-pressure sales job when I talked with one of the agents. I used an agent in CO and she was awesome, but I picked one who had a physical office near where we were living.

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Kay W.1 year ago

I had a client who laid carpet - when you buy “installed” carpet they hire independent contractors to lay it - he was one of those. Anyway he broke his hand and had no insurance - they set it in the ED on a temporary basis but hands are complex and it healed into a useless claw. He was able to buy Obamacare and get it repaired by an orthopedic surgeon. Just WILDLY grateful. He doesn’t vote though, despite my urging.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

A couple's (longtime friends) son in his mid 30s, is an independent contractor. He is newly married with new mortgage payments too. Got a cut, then a serious blood infection, had to be emergency airlifted from local hospital to a better equipped medical facility, and was hospitalized for a long time. No insurance! My friends were on the hook for his gargantuan medical bills AND made his mortgage payments until he recovered enough to help pay both. They had just paid off their mortgage at the time, thankfully. I'm betting their son is now insured although I haven't asked. Needless to say, their retirement has been delayed to "never."

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Kay W.1 year ago

They may not want to do it, but inform them about Ch 7 bankruptcy. Medical debt is unsecured and can be discharged. The bk trustee can’t take their home, cars (with exceptions) or retirement savings. We discharged hundreds of thousands in medical sent at the law office. It’s one of the problems with the US system - providers need to get paid - if they kill Ocare no one wins. Patients lose but so do providers.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

Thanks, Kay! At the time, I immediately advised them to seek specialized legal counsel to explore all options! But they are proud "independent" types so I don't know if they availed themselves. Not MAGA but still freakin' stubborn! I did not push after giving them that advice at the outset. You can lead a horse to water ...

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

When we got Dem Governor Tom Wolf, I went from paying $800 per month (despite my low income) to paying zero because my only income is Required Minimum Distributions taken once annually. Our PA marketplace, "Pennie" just sent me a letter stating that premiums will rise by at least 82%. I am not going to pay - we'll need a new boiler for heat and hot water very soon and tariffs will be making that extra expensive. I choose not to freeze to death while I wait to get old enough for Medicare, hoping for no catastrophic medical events in the meantime. I hate this timeline.

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TBone Dinosaur1 year ago

ETA if I do have a catastrophic medical event, I can withdraw from the invested inherited funds. But I will fight like hell with the billing administrator first, or maybe let it go into collection, and try for a pennies on the dollar settlement with the collection agency. I don't use credit at all for anything so I don't care about my credit report.